| Jyrki Heikkinen,
              Stripburger 57 A Petic Comic-Master of the Vast Finnish Landscapes 
 
 Jyrki Heikkinen was interrogated by Kaja Avberšek 
 “I
                am 41 years old and have been seriously engaged in
                producing comics for about 4
                years now. You may have seen my works on the pages of
                Napa, Glömp and Suuri
                Kurpitsa in Finland.” This is how you presented
                  yourself in Madburger, the special issue of
                  Stripburger in 2002. That was when we got
                  to know you and we found you … mysterious. Maybe a
                  slightly crazy middle-aged
                  guy. There was something mad about your story that of
                  course fit the concept of
                Madburger very nicely.
                  We felt a peculiar, not quite
                  comprehensible energy of an eccentric creator. We
                  found you interesting … and
                  then along came the love. Stripburger has almost
                  adopted you as its ‘outside-home
                  artist’.  The story you created for Madburger
                  was called This is my future where you
                  still used frames, geometrically
                  confined spaces for sequences. We found your style
                  quite classical; the drawing
                  was somehow firmer. At the same time, your somewhat
                  shaky line – and eventually
                  the content itself as well – indicated an airy and
                  poetic human character that
                  constantly, in its characteristic subtle way,
                  questions the point and meaning
                  of all. Much of your later work features landscapes
                  and figures, as well as
                  dialogues and onomatopoeic elements that seem to
                  shimmer like water and flow
                  one into another, like poetry. A strong tie between
                  poetry and images is
                  obvious: the way you handle space, draw the line, use
                  ink and water colours …
                  Were you first a poet handling words or one who works
                  with images? Did you
                  first start drawing or writing, in other words: “what
                  came first: the chicken
                  or the egg?” You talk little but say very
                  much. And when you speak, you hit the
                  spot without blabbering. We kind of like that … At
                first there were words. When I started to write poems in
                senior high, I thought
                that being a poet is the greatest thing in this world.
                Comics came along in my
                twenties and now during the last years illustrated poems
                and independent images
                joined them. I
                believe that the way I use words and find expressions
                affects the lines I draw.
                When I draw, I pursue a certain tension in my characters
                and details. I search
                for an iron wire-like line that sometimes barely holds
                the whole picture
                together. The feel of intangibility and uncertainty is
                important. A sleek and supple line rejects the eye. It
                isn’t real.
                People are bumpy and clumsy, anticipating a disaster and
                preparing for it. It
                is also about aesthetics and pleasure. Then
                an independent image came along; for it enables
                detachment from words. The
                drawer is transferred into figurative thinking, to
                another level or is
                encouraged to employ other parts of his capacity, to
                move towards the dream
                realm. In 2009 we invited you to
                  collaborate at another Stripburger
                  project called Greetings from Cartoonia. We
                  established new comic lands with all their
                  social, cultural and ethnographic characteristics,
                  inhabited by residents of
                  rare and special kinds … We put up an interesting
                  exhibition of tourist posters
                  in screen print, original comic pages and ethno-comic
                  objects and then
                  published Greetings from Cartoonia, a special
                  treat by Stripburger. Foreign artists
                  had the task to portray Slowenia (warning: not
                  Slovenia!), inspired by these
                  very Slovenian items. You got the Slovenian electrical
                  transformer and the
                  Easter bundle as key elements for your story. You
                  entitled the story A promise, transformed the electrical
                  transformer into a transformer robot
                  and the Easter bundle into deer antlers. The story
                  also includes a huge monstrous
                  fish, a know-it-all monkey, a giant devil, half buried
                  in the ground, a god on
                  a cloud, an ironing angel, dwarves, bats … Where do
                  you draw your inspiration
                  from (mostly)? Is it dreams, hallucinations, or life
                  itself? I combine varied things, myths, everyday
                incidents, images
                from books and newspapers and dreams. Even though
                there’s often only one image
                from a dream or only the atmosphere, it is the key
                factor, it leads the way. The work itself, moving on through
                scriptwriting,
                sensitises one to find usable material from all around.
                It sensitises you to
                recall things and shifts you to a dense and light space,
                where little things
                have vast meanings. I have noticed that the most
                important things are an arm’s
                length away. It can be a half-thought sentence uttered
                by a close person, an
                ornament in a second-hand shop or a toy figure. I need
                this material, these
                building blocks, to play with. Cartoonia was an important project.
                Assignments often
                carry the work on with intensity. A promise is one of my key works. Sometimes you use prayers
                  and some passages in your texts sound
                  like religious texts. Do you believe in God? In a God
                  of your own, an ancient
                  pagan one, in nature itself, in chaos and order? The
                question of God is featured in my poetry and comics, for
                it is the question of
                people. Monotheistic religions are dangerous, they lead
                to madness and
                destruction.  This
                certainty in one’s own
                orthodox beliefs  leads
                to the conclusion
                that non-believers are wrong in some fundamental way. I
                guess I neglect any
                arrogant or condescending self-certainty. The more gods
                there are, the better.
                There has to be space and looseness and play in issues
                of faith. On
                the other hand, I am a Western foster-child of
                Christianity. I can’t escape
                that. But it doesn’t have to be taken so seriously.  You wrote - or even better -
                  drew the word ILOA (happiness) in my
                  copy of Greetings from Cartoonia book. It seems that
                  you deal a lot with human
                  values in your work, ruled by love. Universal love and
                  universal understanding.
                  Am I right? Polish
                children’s book author Janosch wrote in one of his
                illustrated books: “Joy is a
                wonderful thing”. Nothing needs to be added to that. If you lived in Cartoonia,
                  you’d be an inhabitant of Fineland. Is
                  Finland truly a fine land? If not, what is it like? Do
                  you believe in national
                  stereotypes? What about Slowenia (slow
                  country)? When you visited it in 2009
                  with the exhibition of Greeting from Cartoonia, did
                  you find it slow? We
                  visited the Škocjan caves that fascinated you … I
                  remember how you had an
                  ecstatic smile and kept repeating: “This is magic!”
                  and said that it was a very
                  erotic underground landscape. Nature is the mightiest
                  and biggest of them all,
                  don’t you agree? Are you running back to nature,
                  perhaps? (Where are you living
                  at the moment? In a small town or a city? Does the
                  city give you anything of
                  importance?) I
                experienced some kind of sense of ease in Slovenia; a
                sense that everything
                will work out after all , that there is no need to fuss,
                if one has direction and
                will. The atmosphere was peaceful and the people
                lovable. Yes, nature is
                everything. Finland
                is the land of water in the north. When you are on the
                ice in freezing weather,
                you think you understand something about this country
                and its history but you don’t
                want to bother yourself with that. It’s almost always
                windy and under your feet
                is the same water as in the summer. The boat is under
                the tarpaulin. The sky
                darkens from gray to violet. People ski and skate. There
                seems to be room for
                everyone. National
                stereotypes can be funny and useful as if a tool of
                understanding. I
                live in Kuopio, a little town of ca. 100,000 people, and
                enjoy my life here. I
                also enjoy the countryside. However, from time to time I still miss
                having people
                around me. And I miss the forms and space of a city and
                most of all the
                imprints of people, 
                the layers of time. I cannot forget how you
                  danced here on Metelkova! It seems that
                  the national stereotype was right, in this case,
                  namely the stereotype that the
                  members of introverted, quiet and pure nations let out
                  their demons by
                  screaming when alone (like Mieskuoro Huutajat – the
                  Finnish choir that screams
                  national anthems at the top of their lungs), dancing
                  till they get bloody
                  blisters or intoxicated from alcohol. They write, draw
                  and paint the scariest
                  monsters from their deepest subconscious.  Also, when you dance, you
                  write and draw lines, directions and
                  forms into space, as well …  You’ve
                  sent us a story entitled Everything Happens for a
                    Reason for the
                  Brazilian flavoured issue of Stripburger #54. We’ve
                  read you in the previous
                  issue #56 too, your story was entitled Three
                    Wise Men. It seems you’re totally
                  tireless! You’re creating and creating and your
                  creations are becoming more and
                  more you. I have a feeling that you work using the stream of consciousness (and
                  sub-consciousness), it seems
                  that your images and words are being
                  poured onto the paper by themselves … is that true?
                  What’s you creative process
                  like? And what’s your most typical day like? Do you
                  get out of bed, do a few
                  exercises, prepare a delicious breakfast … ? The
                mornings are my prime time, it is easier to concentrate
                than later in the day
                and the work is intense. If possible, I do the most
                important tasks in the
                morning after breakfast. I had a late start; I was about 35 years
                old. Finding my
                own domain and quality took time. It was such a great
                relief to finally find my
                voice that I have been continuing the work with the
                power of the launching
                velocity. And I haven´t often stopped to think
                about what am I doing. As
                for many others, scriptwriting is the most time
                consuming activity for me. It
                is the basis for what is to follow. When drawing, I have
                to brake often so that
                the line does not become sloppy. We’re completely aware that
                  you’re a master poet and comic artist.
                  I’ve read somewhere that you also do metal shaping in
                  the artistic handcrafting
                  sense. Do you still work with this, how should I put
                  it, hardcore material? Do
                  you bend, bang, cut, burn and set up giant metal
                  statues maybe? The choice to work with metal arose from
                the will to
                learn something that I would not immediately choose,
                something that is against
                my nature. And I still think that I have to push myself
                to some place I’d
                rather not go. I search for friction. I hadn’t done
                metalwork since school. At this moment you’re
                  working on a huge 8-metre painting for
                  Kiasma – the museum of modern arts in Helsinki. If I’m
                  not mistaken, you also
                  had to fulfil an order for an elementary school in
                  Finland (which one, where?).
                  You made a huge scale painting for them, too (or a
                  series of paintings? For the
                  staircase? I’m not sure). So you’re a painter as well
                  and it seems you never
                  run out of orders. In this case you must be a mural
                  painter! I
                painted two series of works as a commission for the
                elementary school of Martti
                Ahtisaari in Kuopio. It was my first artwork for a
                public space. It was an
                important project as it allowed me to do something
                really big. The
                work for Kiasma is about to be ready. The exhibition
                called Päin
                  näköä will introduce Finnish comic
                artists from 9th March to 9th
                September 2012. It consists mostly of sculptures,
                installations and paintings –
                not that many original comic strips. I remember the video Lost on YouTube. A man (you in
                  fact) walks in the deep Finnish snow, everything is
                  shaking and flickering,
                  accompanied by some kind of Jyrki-esque noise. Did you
                  make more of these
                  experiments? Have you ever been seriously into music?
                  Were you ever (or are
                  you) a member of an experimental music band? I’ve never been seriously into making
                music. I did a video
                called Luomiskertomus (History of the Creation)
                with my friend Martti Mujunen a couple of years ago,
                where we combined live
                black and white pictures with poetic dialogues. Lost was
                created as sort of a by-product. These days I play the mandolin just for my
                own
                entertainment, mostly Finnish folk music. After all the
                trying and learning
                it’s fun to just fool around with instruments. Your life has recently
                  turned upside down completely. The last
                  time I met you was in Linz (Austria) at the
                  international comics festival Next
                  Comic Fest. You seemed like a new person, reborn
                  almost, you stopped eating
                  meat, grew a little goatee, you were dressed in
                  colourful clothes in pastel
                  colours, started smoking menthol cigarettes again …
                  The overhauling of life is
                  usually followed by an overhaul of creativity. What
                  kind of impulse is needed
                  for that? What changed in your creations / works? It’s
                difficult to answer that. You could ask me that maybe
                after five or ten
                years... From the specific towards
                  the general (bordering slightly on the
                  banal, but anyway): who are the authors that you
                  admire the most and that
                  inspire you? What about comic artists? I know you
                  loved the Moomins by the
                  Swedish-Finnish writer, illustrator, painter and comic
                  strip artist Tove
                  Jansson. Were you fascinated by any other comics as a
                  child and later on? I
                am easily inspired by artists. The enthusiasm usually
                calms down; the
                appreciation doesn’t. Last I was delighted by
                Sarah-Louise Barbett´s story in
                which the characters were very touching. When
                I was a child, Philemon’s stories, where anything could
                happen, by the French
                drawer Fred, affected me in an indelible way. They are
                stories that I want to
                believe in, warm and wise in a quiet manner. Another
                influence was American-based, an educational magazine
                called Kuvitetut
                klassikot (Classics Illustrated). The classic novels of
                world literature were
                squeezed into 40 pages with the aid of unknown
                illustrators. Something in that
                idea appealed to me and of course the combination of
                adventure and romance. The
                story has to be real. It can be of fantasy or realism or
                a wild hybrid, but it
                must arise from a true emotion. I
                guess my everlasting favourites are Ilan Manouahch and
                André Lemos. I don’t get
                tired with their works. And Bendik Kaltenborn. He moves
                in an agile way on his
                own level. I very much like the works of the
                Tonto-group; Michael Jordan,
                Helmut Kaplan and Edda Strobl are also significant
                storytellers. Have you ever considered
                  creating comics for children, too? (or
                  maybe you already have?) I
                actually haven´t done comics for children but I
                have held workshops for them. We hear so much about the
                  ‘Finnish comics’. Do you feel as a
                  member of the so-called ‘Finnish scene’ or would you
                  rather say you’re more of
                  an einzelgänger, a lone wolf? Do you collaborate
                  with other creative
                  collectives? Or are you an independent artist and
                  belong to yourself only? I
                am not a lone wolf, I am an individual among other
                Finnish drawers, in a way we
                share the same agenda. I recognise my own scenery from
                Finnish comics; their
                stories speak to me about important issues; the
                mentality is the same. Yes, I
                feel I belong to this group. The term Finnish comics is
                maybe like a frame in
                which one operates, maybe forgetting  or
                neglecting it. Regularly yet sparsely I collaborate, for
                example, in the
                magazine Kuti and in group exhibitions. I don’t belong to myself only. I write and
                draw for
                fellow men as well, but I guess that creative work
                consists of personal need,
                obsession, ambition and compassion. _______________________________ POETRY: Riemupolitiikan hautajaiset, Karisto Publishing, 1984 U pui uje mui, Otava Publishing, 2002 Pois voihke ja valitus!, Otava Publishing, 2004 Hieno, pieni kiekura,
                Otava Publishing, 2006 Kalevanpoika, Otava Publishing, 2010 COMICS (SELECTION): Tsirnam bai, Suuri Kurpitsa, 1999 Arjen vartijat, self published, 2000 Aamulla varhain ja muita
                  Jyrki Heikkisen sarjakuvia, self
                published, 2001 Autuaat, self published, 2002 Punajäkälä, Asema Publishing, 2005 Seiniä päin, self published, 2005 Tohtori Futuro, Asema Publishing, 2007 Lichen Rouge, La Cinquième Couche, 2008 Kiitosvirret ja
                  ylistyslaulut, Asema Publishing, 2008 Paparoad, Boing Being, 2008 Hauska on tietää,
                self published, 2009 The Moon Boy, Wormgod and Seriefrämjandet,
                2010 Apua on tulossa,
                Asema, 2011 www.jyrkiheikkinen.wordpress.com |